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“道成了肉身”,是那位“道上帝”成了肉身的样式,而不是道上帝变成了那个肉身

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发表于 2021-10-26 06:37 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式



And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth. (John1:14 ASV)
太初有道,道与 神同在,道就是 神。 这道太初与 神同在。 万物是藉着他造的;凡被造的,没有一样不是藉着他造的。 ...道成了肉身,住在我们中间,充充满满地有恩典有真理。我们也见过他的荣光,正是父独生子的荣光。 (约翰福音1:1-3,14 和合本)
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John1:14 NIV)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.(John1:14 KJV)


 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 06:39 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层

比较:

the Word became flesh.

the Word became the flesh.   




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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 06:43 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 aaron123123123 于 2021-10-26 07:58 编辑

“道成肉身”,“道成了肉身”,并不是一个“固定词组”,

甚至,有人以为“道”只是一个“动词”....
说什么,
“....是道成的”;
“耶稣基督是道成了肉身来的”,把“道成了”作为一个“动词组”,“道”是一个动词。


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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 06:54 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层

the Word,道,话,
圣子基督是三位一体永生神的第二位:
道上帝,话上帝;
道神,话神。

贯穿整本圣经的“耶和华的话”,“the word of(from) the LORD”,“the voice of the LORD”,“the word of the God",就是这位道上帝(道神)。



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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 07:46 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层

使徒在耶路撒冷听见撒玛利亚人领受了 神的道,就打发彼得、约翰往他们那里去。 ...使徒既证明主道,而且传讲,就回耶路撒冷去,一路在撒玛利亚好些村庄传扬福音。(使徒行传8:14,25 和合本)
When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. ...After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages. (Acts8:14,25 NIV)

神的道;主(的)道。




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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 07:50 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层



凡灵认耶稣基督是成了肉身来的,就是出于 神的;从此你们可以认出 神的灵来。 凡灵不认耶稣,就不是出于 神,这是那敌基督者的灵。你们从前听见他要来,现在已经在世上了。 (约翰一书4:2-3 和合本)
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. (1 John4:2-3 NIV)

that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

in the flesh



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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 07:56 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层

And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth. (John1:14 ASV)
道成了肉身,住在我们中间,充充满满地有恩典有真理。我们也见过他的荣光,正是父独生子的荣光。 (约翰福音1:14 和合本)
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John1:14 NIV)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.(John1:14 KJV)

dwell,dwelling,dwelt。

and made his dwelling among us.  



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 楼主| 发表于 2021-10-26 08:17 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 aaron123123123 于 2021-10-26 08:21 编辑

For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews4:12 ASV)
 神的道是活泼的,是有功效的,比一切两刃的剑更快,甚至魂与灵,骨节与骨髓,都能刺入、剖开,连心中的思念和主意都能辨明。 (希伯来书4:12 和合本)
For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. (Hebrews4:12 NIV)
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.(Hebrews4:12 KJV)

And there is no creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and laid open before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.(Hebrews4:13 ASV)
并且被造的没有一样在他面前不显然的;原来万物在那与我们有关系的主眼前,都是赤露敞开的。(希伯来书4:13 和合本)
Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. (Hebrews4:13 NIV)
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.(Hebrews4:13 KJV)

神的道....他....我们的主....

By faith we understand that the worlds have been framed by the word of God, so that what is seen hath not been made out of things which appear. (Hebrews11:3 ASV)
我们因着信,就知道诸世界是藉 神的话造成的;这样,所看见的,并不是从显然之物造出来的。(希伯来书11:3 和合本)
By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. (Hebrews11:3 NIV)
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.(Hebrews11:3 KJV)

神的话....



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发表于 2021-10-26 08:52 约拿的家手机版 | 显示全部楼层
大道无形,遵守进入世界的规则,也使用肉身容器行事,有容器初始分辨率限制,修炼升级提高上限。
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发表于 2021-10-26 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
  太初有道的“道”= 万物是藉着他造的“他”=正是父独生子的荣光的“独生子”
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